I was upset with the school division taking are freedom of using the internet. So I went to: www.rpg-arena.com/proxy and started typing in websites. Now just a question about using this proxy. I know it's the same as boredatschool.net and I bet it still keeps your IP anonymously, but is it safe to log in to an account using it at school and they wont log it?
I know our school monitors what we go to and install on the computer but using this proxy do you think it's safe?
Well it depends if the login page uses https (ssl) or not. Anything sent through their routers in the clear text can be captured and used against you.
Using ssh which can act as an encrypted proxy is your best bet if you can at least run programs that dont need to be installed.
Since I'm assuming your school is lame and doesnt use linux, you can use plink.exe from the putty suite to create a socks 5 proxy on a preset port. Just have the browser use that proxy and all data is passed encrypted to the network which you trust (home).
Good luck
posted by AcidTonic :: 2006-05-03 09:31:53
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i belive that its safe enough i dought its encrypted in anyways i reccomend never log into something from school.
and if it has your real name u can get in trouble. and yes someone is finnaly using the proxy i reccomended.
You see that's just the thing, in order to use it we have to type in our first 3 letters of our first name followed by your whole last name plus your made up password.
keylogger when your friend or someone logs in install a keylogger within there account then from there wait for more pepole to use the com it should give u all there passwords and usernames aka id number.
if your school is like mine your password is your student id. if this is true then you should go crusing arround the hard drive looking for the one ultimate file. the file containing all the users names and passwords. this is either a word or an excell spread sheet. trust me it is there i found it in 6th grade and now i cant rember where it was
posted by eatablecrayon :: 2006-06-14 23:09:50
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you mean the file with all of the passwords? thats teh SAM file
edit: lol, the SAM file is not exactly a document or excel spreadsheet :P that might be another easy place they store the passwords at your school, but i'd bet that to get to that you need to be admin, and to be admin, you may need to use the SAM file :) Google "cracking the sam file" or something it would take too long to explain details here
posted by bl4ckprint :: 2006-06-15 12:55:54
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At my school you can boot from a live cd like Knoppix or something and get on the computers without logging in, that way your not logged on as anyone, so it would be harder to figure out it was you.
posted by marshal_mellow :: 2006-06-15 18:06:12
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How much unsupervised time do you have with the computer? Try repartitioning the hard drive and installing SUSE on another partition not seen in the initial logon. Or install the other OS on a reused 2nd hard drive. Access it by changing the boot sequence temporarily in the bios. People never watch the boot sequence unless they have a reason to. You can also use the paint program to create bitmap copies of boot screens to decoy people.
Use the circumstance to your advantage by looking at it in small scale what the government could do to you in the real world. Create multiple solutions by becomming a superhacker. Actually the school could be doing you a favor. Whatever the school does to you will have very limited consequences. You do not need a high school diploma to go to college. All you need is money.
Wrong. Any school of any value requires a GED at the very least.
posted by techmonkey :: 2006-08-30 00:43:53
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My school was smart, and they block all of the sites they want to block by routing all connections through a proxy and denying all web traffic that doesn't go through said proxy, that way no matter what browser or OS you're using you're pretty much stuck only looking at the sites they haven't blocked. They also subscribe to the circumventor list, so they know about and block the new circumventor's as they're created. The only way around the security is to create your own proxy server on a home computer, which is all well and good if you know how to forward ports and such, but in any case, it's almost not worth it due to the incredible speed hit you get trying to surf that way (routing through both the school's proxy server and one at your house through your home internet connect)...they also blocked all web language translators, google's cache/translation tools, and just about anthing else you can think of that can redirect web traffic....any suggestions for me getting around THAT degree of security?
Also, they don't let you get into windows Control panel, task manager, right-click is disabled on the start menu and lots of menus are disabled from the desktop, you can't access the run command from the start menu (possibly via the shortcut key, but not terribly likely), and they also block a lot of applications by watching the title of them in the titlebar, does anybody know a way of changing the titlebar text of a program before run to allow me to sign in? (This also has the unpleasant side effect of crashing a browser if it's displaying the web page title in the titlebar), but I think this is mostly a windows problem (I have no access to the boot sequence) but they grant us admin access to the PCs (I suppose a side-effect of the lockdown software they use), so I am able to install software (But only uninstall it with 3rd party tools, since I have no control panel)
As to the original topic, I'm of the mind that you'd get in a LOT more trouble for installing another operating system on the computer or hijacking another student's ID number than you would for visiting a website that they don't approve of. Using the proxy the school probably won't know what websites you're going to, and the people at these circumventor websites probably don't really care what your login information for So and So website is. If your school hasn't blocked that proxy yet, chances are they're not going to intercept any info from the proxy site you're using that could incriminate you in any way...they will probably know that you're using a proxy (if they really monitor that carefully), but won't likely know what you've been visiting...(I mean, let's face it, a school that can't block a circumventor will probably not be sniffing packets or intercepting any information sent or recieved over the connection, at most they will probably be able to see the URLs visited, which will just turn up the URL of the proxy, so I'm not seeing a real big problem arising here....but maybe I'm just not paranoid enough. ^_^;;
posted by amaranthinenight :: 2006-08-30 01:33:03
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how is that different, or smarter than your average school?
how you get around it is simple: take the performance hit. if you want to be 1337 (and practically un-traceable) boot up on an operating system that runs directly off of a cd, or even a thumbdrive to bypass all restrictions put into place at the OS level (assuming they haven't removed the hardware, in which case you could also bring in the hardware lol). if neither of those work for you, then your only option left is to try and gain administrative access. or in your case, access to an administrative account with more priveleges.
At the moment I do take a performance hit, and I figured there was no other way around it....and like I said about the operating system, I can't get to the boot sequence to boot from a CD or USB key, they've got the BIOS locked up tight...that said, I figured there wouldn't be a whole lot else I could do, I was just asking to see if anyone who knew better than me had any ideas.
Oh, and I know that a lot of schools will block with software rather than through the network the way mine does, maybe the average school does it the same way as mine, but the software blocks are a lot easier to get around, like by using another OS or some by just using another browser (I doubt that happens often, except maybe in small private schools where they think using internet explorer's parental control features will cut it) but in any case, my school took the way that's the hardest to get around, especially for your average student who knows little to nothing about networking. Also, you can't get to any of the internet options, I was lucky enough once to catch the network down and through some bug I was able to get in with full permissions for a few minutes, the first thing I did was take down the proxy settings (which you can't usually get to) and write them down so that I could use portable firefox. If I hadn't done that, I would have been stuck using IE for the entire year. (This was last year, here's to hoping the settings haven't changed ^_^;;)
I start back tuesday, and was just kinda seeing if anyone could think of any alternatives to setting up my old proxy server again, but at the moment it looks like no, so I suppose I'll just have to keep exploring and hope I come across something. ^_^
posted by amaranthinenight :: 2006-08-30 10:35:06
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your schools are weird...I can't even see my comp, couse it's behind a wall, no way in hell could someone change the hard drive...it would be fun though...although I think it would be more fun to check out the original one at home where it's safe and there's plenty of time...
Ok, you say that they did give you a somewhat adminish of an account?
Can you get to CMD at all via: notepad, calculator, start menu?
if you can get to CMD, not too many people know the command "control userpasswords2" (w/o quotes)
- in here, you can reset the admins password, view and change each users password on every account in windows, make an admin account, or change an existing account to whatever permissions you want.
Im guessing, that if you can do that, then all you would have to do, is hit ctrl+alt+del on user log-in, sign in as admin admin, and your good to go...
... but im not sure about any of this as i have never had to deal with computer limitations by school admins and what-not.
posted by techno sapient :: 2007-01-08 10:34:38
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Wisdom, that control userpasswords2 thing is pretty useful. I never heard of that command...sweet, but the problem is when I use it on the college computers, where I attend, I get a little pop-up window that prompts me to enter the administration password before i can view, because my status on my student account doesn't have admin privleges.
Another Question is where did you find that command, and is a way to find a list of all commands like that?
